The New Commission on Worship Members and Their Congregations

Pr. Asburry pointed out to me the new appointed members of the Commission on Worship, supplying the web address in a previous comment. All the site gives is their name and church membership. But that may reveal much.

One member is from Concordia, San Antonio. They describe their worship this way:

The 6:00 p.m. worship service on Saturday is a blended worship service incorporating hymns as well as more contemporary praise music.

The 8:00 a.m. worship service on Sunday is a meaningful traditional service featuring hymns and some traditional liturgy.

The 9:30 a.m. worship service is a blended worship experience incorporating hymns as well as more contemporary praise music.

The 11:00 a.m. worship service is a vibrant praise service with lead singers, backed by a live praise band.

The 7:00 p.m. worship service on Monday is a blended worship service incorporating hymns as well as more contemporary praise music.

St. John, Ellisville, MO is one of the earliest megachurches in the LCMS. Their worship is described this way:

Traditions: 5:00pm, Saturday, Sanctuary, Ellisville Campus

This service celebrates a sense of reverence and features classic and modern hymns and songs. Children are welcome to worship in this venue or Click here to find out more information about our Children’s Ministry options.

Call to Worship:

This blended form of worship brings together classic elements of worship in a devotional setting.
Children are welcome to worship in this venue.

Full choir, band, drama, video and dynamic teaching are combined to share God’s truth in a relevant style. Click here to find out more information about our Children’s Ministry options.


All ages come together for this band-led, heartfelt worship experience in a casual environment. Children’s Ministry is available for infants through 5th grade. Click here to find out more information about our Children’s Ministry options

And…Outpost Maplewood

At: Schlafley’s Bottleworks

St. John takes its band-led, heartfelt worship experience out into the community. Extend the evening by meeting up with friends in the restaurant before or after the service. Children are welcome to worship in this venue.

Did you know that our Outpost Maplewood campus posts a video of the message each week on YouTUBE? Check them out at FREEWEB Follow the link for the weekly message chosen and click “Play All Videos”

Another is from Trinity, Houston TX: they have a “Classic Lutheran,” a “Blended” and a “ninethrityone” which is described this way:

“Trinity Lutheran Church has been known for its rich worship history. The ninethirtyone service is a completely different from the style of worship. The ninethirtyone experience will include modern Christian music led by Right Lane Vacant. The worship service will be in a relaxed atmosphere where coffee and cookies are present. Participants will have the option to sit around tables as we work toward building community. The service will also be heavy on video/multimedia with an emphasis on being interactive. Read more.”

St. John, Orange, CA. Here’s their description of worship services:

Blended Service
9:30 a.m. in the Sanctuary — This service focuses on the teaching of God’s Word in the context of a simpler liturgical setting. The opening of the service is written with the specific theme of the day in mind; a combination of hymns and praise songs are used in this service. Communion is celebrated on the second and fourth Sundays of the month.

Sundays at 9:30 a.m. – 11a.m. and 6:30p.m. in the Auditorium. Every Sunday the ‘e’ service will continue to host great contemporary worship with the St. John’s Praise Band with relevant and applicable messages from God’s Word. Communion will be celebrated every first and third Sundays of the month. Invite a friend and attend.

Family Service
11 a.m. in the Sanctuary — This service is very much like the 9:30 a.m. service, but features a Children’s Message as part of the service. Children’s Choirs are scheduled twice a month at this service because of its emphasis on young families. Communion is celebrated on the second and fourth Sundays of the month.

Saturday Service
6:30 p.m. on Saturdays in the Sanctuary — This service follows the 8 a.m. format and communion schedule. The historic liturgy is featured at this service.

Liturgical Service
8 a.m. in the Sanctuary — This service follows the historic liturgy of the Church, with some creative changes or substitutions. These changes highlight a season of the Church Year or emphasize a theme for a given Sunday. Holy Communion is celebrated on the first, third, and fifth Sundays of the month.

Light of Life, Indio, CA. Nothing informative online. It’s a mission congregation with no reported members or attendance.

Rev. William Utech is also on the Commission. He is on faculty at Concordia Seminary, and was pretty outspoken about his love of contemporary things.

Finally, Rev. Dr. Wismar remains. I don’t know much about him. Rev. Vieker remains and the lovely Mrs. Asburry.

This is the new LCMS to be sure.

Lord have mercy on us…

Other LCMS Blogs?

The Confessional Lutheran blogosphere is well-documented. But where are the “moderate” LCMS blogs? Where are the liberal blogs? Where are the Ablaze! friendly blogs? Where are the Church Growth, Contemporary Worship blogging pastors? Are they too busy writing their own worship services?

I searched for some but can’t find any. I don’t plan on adding them to my blogroll or to my reader, but I am curious.


The Death of Blogs | Christianity Today | A Magazine of Evangelical Conviction

The Death of Blogs | Christianity Today | A Magazine of Evangelical Conviction: “The blogosphere, which was supposed to be a great democratizer, has made us all perennial candidates, demanding that we weigh in on every news item, no matter how mundane or overexposed. (The blog world risks becoming one giant midrash on The New York Times front page.)”

An Epidemic of Liturgical Posts

First was Weedon’s list (see below).

Next comes one by McCain: Lutheran Worship: Old School … Too Roman Catholic? Thoughts on Lutheranism and Liturgy.

Finally, Fr. Hollywood has one: Confession on the Comeback Trail. The article Fr. Hollywood references is excellent as well. A noteworthy quote:

Today, we’re seeing an interesting phenomenon. One part of the synod is moving further toward Protestantism, with radical and non-liturgical neo-Evangelical worship styles and emphasis on the very-Protestant Ablaze!(tm) program – as evidenced by the recent “official” LCMS youth gathering that featured dancing girls at the contemporary worship service. At the same time, another part of our synod is recovering the reverent and historic Lutheran “Evangelical Catholicism” that emphasizes the Gospel through the liturgy and the sacraments of the Church – typified by the recent Higher Things youth conference that featured a solemn Mass with incense. A tale of two synods!

Some Questions On Church

Is there one true Church on earth? (Yes or no)

If “no,” then did the gates of Hades overcome it? (“And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.” Matt. 16:18)

If “yes,” then which Church is the one true Church on earth?

Are you then willing to say that every other organization is not the Church?

If the Church you believe is the one true Church was formed sometime after Pentecost, what did those people previously belong to? What were they doing?

If you have in mind some grouping of people who are known to God but may be scattered around, then I ask if that is really an ecclesia or an idea.

Finding a Way

I am fascinated with stories of reinvention and change. There was a man I buried the other day who sold cars, then houses, then insurance, then managed an apartment complex. Another man I know sold cars, worked a radio station and then went into real estate. There’s the guy at the funeral home who “works” funerals and is also a pastor, and another who sells heavy trucks on the side.

I grew up with this notion that you chose a career and then worked at it until you retired. I know this was the perceived norm for the generation ahead of me, and for generations ahead of them. I’m not sure how this notion came about for me. Dad painted vending machines before I was born, worked for IBM for twenty years, retired early from them and then bounced around managing a parts depot (subcontracting for IBM), working at Sony, then for a real estate developer. My mom stayed at home, sewed and baked and so forth until she suddenly went to pharmacy school then worked at a variety of hospitals and pharmacies until she retired.

Working the same vocation as your father, and his father before used to be the way of the world. The family farm, the family business, the family trade was a certain and dependable as early marriage and plenty of children to help out. Expansion and success often was borne on the backs of employees you raised but didn’t have to pay. In this world, one either embraced where fate had placed him, or despaired of something he is not suited to. Women were not even given the choice of despair; their only outlet was marrying outside the small circle, of finding a different kind of life through opportune marriage…which actually, was more freedom than boys had, especially the first born males; they had little or no escape from the family vocation.

Today only the professions can speak of familial loyalty and constancy. Physicians, attorneys, dentists and clergy tend to remain so throughout their lives, and many follow in their father’s (or mother’s) footsteps. I suppose this is so because of the commitment that the professions require: years of education beyond the the bachelor’s degree; the sense of calling that many of the professions have; the income that they demand (except for the obvious!); the social status they give.

The conservative in me should abhor this kind of vocational chaos as something harmful to society. It is true that society lacks stability across the board. And certainly there is a discipline and obedience we learn in staying put. There’s a reason monks were told to stay in their cells (what their rooms/communities were called).

However, in changing careers, in reinvention, in change I see fallout from the Gospel, but not the Gospel itself. We are not bound by fate or slaves to the gods. We are captives no longer. Christ has freed us from the prison of our sin, but He has also freed us. Period. Living in fear of the unknown, fearing change, fear in general is cast out with the love of God. And even monks were not born into it, but had to renounce their former ways and choose a new life by God’s grace to get to their cells in the first place.

Interesting Site

World Clock continually updates population and census figures based on statistical frequency. In other words, you can sit and watch the rate of change for births and deaths, the number who die by AIDS or violence unfold right before your eyes. The creator admits that the actual figures are not necessarily correct, but the rate of change, statistically speaking, is. Pretty cool.